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Has anyone realized yet that I'm just poking the raging bulls in the butt?

Has anyone realized how stupid these dicussions have gotten? They are the same thing over and over and over again. These people are on one side and these people are on the other. Intelligent people and Dumbasses on both sides. We already know what everyone is going to say about any given topic like this. Lets all just take a step back and realize that in the big scheme of things, it's just not worth the stress.

*Bows*

*Respectfully tries to leave the room, hoping that no one draws him back in*

na doesnt stress me out ...just hate that ppl try to prove mages have to much str and buffs then use a one sided necro charecter that is way over powered to try and prove that all mages are over powered when its the necros 3 hour buffs and +10 in higher buffs that are over powered

fitzchivary wrote:na doesnt stress me out ...just hate that ppl try to prove mages have to much str and buffs then use a one sided necro charecter that is way over powered to try and prove that all mages are over powered when its the necros 3 hour buffs and +10 in higher buffs that are over powered

The necro dosnt really make a huge amount of difference, even using magery spells you still break 130.

Base 73
Strength +18
Bless +18
Poly +15
Total 134

fitzchivary wrote:
wonder why he didnt post the whole screen shot maybe he downloaded wod files and made his own shard and jacked his status just to make an argument,maybe thats why i cant see what shard is listed in his screen shot.

seems like a lot of trouble to make a point don't you think fitz. not to mention that it's a base slur on his character (moral not pixelly sort). any vestigial shreds of sympathy i might have harboured for you just dried up and blew away. will we be so lucky that you will follow?

Orion Michaels wrote:

Joram Lionheart wrote:

simon wrote:Nice reply... very nice indeed.

Yes, I especially liked the mindless rambling at the end of his post. A drastic change from the usual logical, well-structuced arguments I tend enjoy reading on these boards.

i don't believe there was any implication the logical, well-structuced arguments were yours Orion.

Ehran wrote:

Orion Michaels wrote:

Joram Lionheart wrote:

simon wrote:Nice reply... very nice indeed.

Yes, I especially liked the mindless rambling at the end of his post. A drastic change from the usual logical, well-structuced arguments I tend enjoy reading on these boards.

i don't believe there was any implication the logical, well-structuced arguments were yours Orion.

Prolly not, but oh well.

Fitz, why do you care if a person utilized Necro to gain better buffs? We sacrifice a skill-slot for it. Now you're a tamer, correct? Why do you need all this strength when you have a big 2-ton meat shield in front of you that eats everything? The point is, you don't.
And how can you continue to be so ignorant when Edison has taken the time out of his day to refute your claims time and time again? Can't you just admit you're wrong?

I never noticed a decrease in the effictiveness of my character with nerfed buffs. In fact, I didn't even know they were nerfed till the person I was hunting with told me. Three possible options, nerf isn't really that significant (negatively), I'm an idiot, or all of the above.

Don't answer that, please.

Ugh, Joram, you’ve lost it. I didn’t see Orion Michaels whine, nor did I. As far as I could tell we both clearly stated our feelings on the subject. You started the insults and flaming.

At any rate, I’d say we’ve pushed UO as far as it will go, and you’re right change is needed, I’ve been messing with runuo most of the day. Making the bump to AOS when pol fully supports it will be a good step towards change. Tons of change; in fact, 4 maps worth, you know the lands. Surely there could be places there that one couldn’t solo. New Mobs added, the list goes on and on. All kinds of things could be done to make new challenges for old players and easy ones for newer players.

fitzchivary wrote:
wonder why he didnt post the whole screen shot maybe he downloaded wod files and made his own shard and jacked his status just to make an argument,maybe thats why i cant see what shard is listed in his screen shot.

Well, it seems I missed this second attack on my character one, thanks for pointing it out Ehran.

Well Fitzcivary, I included everything i could think of in the screen shot so you could check the math for yourself, if you look back you will see the .spec screen is open and down at the bottom right you will clearly see my statcaps, simply going ingame will confirm those, you might need to ask around but im sure any number of people will confirm that tne numbers shown on the .status screen are easialy achievable. At that point a little simple math will confirm that the numbers shown on the character status panel are accurate, about the only thing the screenshot dosnt show is the 3 pieces of +5 int jewlery.

Thanks for accusing me of lying for the 2nd time now.

simon wrote:Ugh, Joram, you’ve lost it. I didn’t see Orion Michaels whine, nor did I. As far as I could tell we both clearly stated our feelings on the subject. You started the insults and flaming.

It is very hard to see outside of the Jar, when you are in the jar.

And Orion, I really got a good laugh out of that one. Wow, an open forum where your suggestion is that we just shut up. And besides, if I didn't respond to your whiney drivel, it would go against what you have been trying to teach. It would just make the forums, "Not Fun"! Are you trying to infringe on my ability to have fun? Why is everyone always trying to take away my ability to have fun? OMG *aaaaiiiiiiiiii* they have made my forum account unplayable!!!!!!!!!!! *those powertripping Bastids!*

Sounds kind of stupid doesn't it. See (Simon and Orion) That is whining. Came straight from you. (Actually yours is a whole different category of whining, Simon. I'm working on a "Whining Dictionary" which will catalogue the different types)

hmmm, actually. You are right Simon. You aren't a Whiner. I apologize. Oh, but you are a Troll. Huge one. That is well documented.


Oh, and Orion, if you are referring to My complete and utter dislike of Simon spilling over in to the game. That is a different issue with Simon. It is due to an "in game" ass attack he pulled.

My point is, I would help you in any way possible If you needed it. Don't worry about that.

That is your opinion, and you are entitled to it.

Also, I wasn't refering to anything with simon or anyone else about the spilling over in game, just in general.

Also I say again, your post sounds like whining about our whining. ANYTHING can be taken as whining if taken out of context, like most of my posts here are.

Can we please stop the ridiculous bickering back and forth now please?

Or does someone have to get the last word in yet? Either way this has begun to bore me so I'm done.

Orion Michaels wrote:Man, you really do look for the bad in everything. Here's another interpretation:
"Man the recent changes kinda suck and they are hard to deal with. But hey, here's how I delt with it . . .
Hmm, 2 completely different interpretations of the same thing. One negative, one positive.

Except that's not what you said, Orion. You deliberately used expressions like "absolutely worthless" and "virtually impossible" to play with your character. You also made mention to those 500k you were forced (that's right FORCED!) to change your skills and gear. Why would you say that? Why not just plainly state that you switched your skills around? Like I said, you're very subtle but I can still see right through you.

It's ok if you want to whine about something you don't like, though. This is a free country and all of that. Just don't react all surprised if people accuse you of doing more whining than arguing. You made your point about a dozen posts ago. I only got involved due of your utterly negative and fatalistic comments about the nerf making your character totally "unplayable". If that's not whining I don't know what is.

I mean seriously now, how more preposterous can your attitude get? It's ok that you don't like this, fine WE GET IT, but sheesh man will you just stop playing the victim for a sec and take an objective look at the crap your saying?

It's not as terrible as you're making it sound.

So, does that go for all people who don't share THE opinion? "Everyone on the other side shut up and it will all be a great in here because now we are the only voice heard?"

There is no "THE" opinion, Orion. For some strange reason that's beyond me ever since you arrived in this shard you have concocted this idea of a "conspiracy theory" going on among the older members of WoD who want to "control" the shard. As if we somehow got together each week to decide what the official "policy" should be, and how it should be carried out. Since these changes were implemented I haven't talked (in-game) to ANY of the people that have been involved in this thread. I simply stated my position and it happens to agree with Eldric's and others. Does that mean all of us are in cohoots and out to get YOU? Of course not! Eldric and I have disagreed on TONS of stuff before (and probably still do) but that's no reason to suggest he's running a conspiracy against me (or the newbies).

By the same token, if I were to take a stand against making some high end mobs more difficult to kill (for example), does that mean I automatically become the champion and defender of all newbies (*hint hint*) because I do so? That's ridiculous! I take stand against it because I don't like it, plain and simple. Likewise, if the majority of players (on the boards) disagree with my opinion I don't automatically become the martyr and victim of a majority conspiracy. THERE SIMPLY IS NO MAJORITY CONSENSUS. While Eldric and I may agree in this issue, we don't agree all the time. Azzo may disagree with Tristan, and Tristan with me, etc, etc. This idea that oldbies ALWAYS agree on the same stuff and band together to defend their views is downright false. You, of course, can't see that because you've decided in your head that's the case (since day one too) and I can't make you change your mind about it.

YOUR voice has been heard, Orion. Don't you dare claim we (evil oldbies, as if you were not one yourself) have deprived you of any rights. Now we're asking you to tone down your whining, because whining has never helped any.

I would have never been posting this jerk-like if I wasn't pushed too far. Having things in your posts constantly taken out of context kinda does that to a person.

There you go again. Have "you've been pushed too far" the same way you were "forced" to change your character skills? Don't you ever make any decisions on your own? Do other people always determine the course of your actions and reactions? Learn to take some responsability for your attitude, Orion. No one has "pushed" you too far, no one "forced" you to change your character. You and you alone made those choices. You decide how to react to a change, post or event that you don't like. Stop acting like the victim and passing the blame to someone else.

And as far as taking your comments out of context, I don't need to remind you that I quoted those expressions verbatim out of your post. Those were YOUR words, not mine. Your words speak for themselves. I didn't have to add anything else.

Orion Michaels wrote:Also I say again, your post sounds like whining about our whining. ANYTHING can be taken as whining if taken out of context, like most of my posts here are.

And if you start claiming your characters are "absolutely worthless," " virtually impossible (to play with)," and utterly "unplayable," that's not whining? Pleasssseeee.
The context of those statements are clear enough. No need to take anything out of context. You said it yourself, everyone knows your position on this issue, it's no secret. Your fatalistic claim that your character is unplayable just because his buffs have been minimally lowered can only be constituted as a complaint.
Worse still, you're not complaining against us because we don't have any power to make changes to the game scripts. You're complaining against Drocket. Saying the changes have made your characters unplayable amount to saying Drocket has made your character unplayable (simple logic right there).